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I am glad you have the opportunity to teach the OT...

2009-07-31T07:39:00.969Z

I am glad you have the opportunity to teach the OT next year.

Can't wait to see your new office. Maybe I wil...

2009-06-25T20:33:04.477Z

Can't wait to see your new office. Maybe I will visit TST this coming academic year.

Dude, your previous office was awesome. I'm gl...

2009-06-24T22:33:33.830Z

Dude, your previous office was awesome. I'm glad I got to see it while over there ;-D.

Hi would love to read where you get to working wit...

2009-04-25T02:54:00.000Z

Hi would love to read where you get to working with Creativity and a theology of work myself.

Good article Daniel. I think you actually touched ...

2009-04-08T11:11:00.000Z

Good article Daniel. I think you actually touched on an even more interesting topic in this area with your comment to Chachi. Many parents, at least from the Christian arena, can rely too heavily on the church for their children's spiritual growth, education and development. This is just as much a disaster in proper parenting. Of course, public education through schooling and spiritual education through the church are two very helpful supplements, if done correctly. But, in general, our children's development starts in the home at all levels.

Challenging stuff for a father to be.

I am most certainly NOT complaining about "the cor...

2009-04-06T22:20:00.000Z

I am most certainly NOT complaining about "the corruption of the youth." More accurately, I'm pointing out (in rant fashion, I concede) the corruption of parents and parenting.

It would be interesting to get Amy's take on these things. I can only imagine the growing pressure which teachers experience. Perhaps you could coax here into actually submitting a comment of her own ;)

Of course my first port of call is the church since that is my context. I am increasingly aware of the inability of church programs and strategies to handle what only parents can truly fulfill in the lives of children and youth. I want to give some more thought as to how we can develop something of a theology of parenting which would see it as a key (not a marginal) aspect of Christian formation.

Daniel, you're beginning to sound like an old man ...

2009-04-06T15:31:00.000Z

Daniel, you're beginning to sound like an old man complaining about the "corruption of the youth" ;-).

But it is interesting that so many people comment on and insist on a change in the educational structure. I read in an article somewhere that this is true in the U.S. particularly because it's our one and only socialized government system (no socialized health care, etc.), so everybody has ideas of how it "should" be.

Not to mention, of course, that no parents want to take responsibility for their own children at home. Since my wife is finishing her MA in Pedagogy, I experience a LOT of this first-hand.

I was also going to bring up parents in the church, before I saw that you did! Parents leave all the God-rearing to "Sunday school" and "youth groups."

I've seen this first-hand even among the clergy, which is particularly troubling.

Daniel, though you had spoken in previous articles...

2009-03-09T15:39:00.000Z

Daniel, though you had spoken in previous articles about your desire to continually start new projects over the desire to finish current projects, this will no doubt become one of those projects you have to finish. ;)

Blessings in your journey.

Cool! Excited to see how this turns out. The 'theo...

2009-02-27T22:37:00.000Z

Cool! Excited to see how this turns out. The 'theology of work' thing is a good point, I haven't heard anything along those lines either. It seems like you might have the resources to develop a fuller understanding of 'sabbath' in this project too.

This sounds interesting. I wonder what these chapt...

2009-02-27T10:18:00.000Z

This sounds interesting. I wonder what these chapters have to say about the sacred/secular divide and how we need to pull down this division that we have built up over history.

Very exciting! I'm looking forward to hearing you...

2009-02-27T02:26:00.000Z

Very exciting! I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts!! =D

The sex thing needs more thought - there is defini...

2009-01-28T19:56:00.000Z

The sex thing needs more thought - there is definitely an analogy there... definitely.

I think what you're talking about Daniel is a kind of dialectic (or paradox?) between journey and arrival. I think I would hold to my earlier thought that we will never ever exhaust what can be known about God. As he is infinite-creator, and we're finite-created, he will always be other from us, and in that sense there must always be 'more' (an excess) of him than we can comprehend or experience. However, I think there is an arrival as well (or a kind of arrival) - that even in this life, when God is manifestly 'present' (in a meeting or whatever), we feel a sense of completion and fullness. In that moment, we cannot imagine anything more.

I think the analogy of the overflowing cup illustrates my point - the cup is full - fully full - and yet there is always more, an excess, which overflows. Heaven then would be a perpetual *arrival* - that time and again we experience God fully, and cannot experience any more - and yet there is more, and we perpetually *journey* into that more even as we arrive.

So I think the two things, journey and arrival, go together in a kind of dance. Stuff like websites / songs / essays, never satisfy, because when they are completed they are *really* completed: there is nothing more. In contrast, God satisfies us fully, but I think he satisfies us fully because there *is* more. So that after we arrive (and we *do* truly arrive, we *are* fully satisfied), we then journey on even deeper. I think desire has a part to play in this too.

Or something like that.

Yeah, I need to dig into some Wright at some point...

2009-01-20T01:49:00.000Z

Yeah, I need to dig into some Wright at some point.

"If we, even now, have the drive to taste of th...

2009-01-19T06:09:00.000Z
"If we, even now, have the drive to taste of the fullness of the glory of God, but are not yet able to fully satisfy that thirst, it would surely make sense that any destination (whether the completion of a website design, good book, or otherwise) would come as something of a letdown; a letdown that, rather than encouraging satisfaction and celebration, drives us back to the search, back to process, back to the journey."

This part resonated with me.

"But, as for heaven fully on earth, it will be perpetual satisfaction, thus no longer having an appetite to start something new to move towards that satisfaction. We will have reached it completely, as you said."

Good thoughts guys.

I am currently reading N.T. Wright's new book, "Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church."

I'll have to get back with you guys on what Wright can contribute to this conversation =).

Precisely. And I cannot deny that the connection ...

2009-01-18T22:33:00.000Z
Precisely. And I cannot deny that the connection to sexuality has not entered my mind. Perhaps we should have a secret, "marrieds" discussion about the connection. Actually, I wonder if Rob Bell's, "Sex God" discusses this point.

Your final thought: 'Since no destination, for the...

2009-01-18T17:46:00.000Z
Your final thought: 'Since no destination, for the moment, is truly satisfying, the journey for us carries more feeling of promise than the arrival. But when we know fully even as we are fully known (1 Cor. 13:12), perhaps the destination will be so overwhelming that the prospect of journey will pale in comparison. But for now, we journey.'

Yeah, and the best explanation that came to mine was making love with one's spouse. I won't go into details, but we can consider it.

When projects are all finished, we want the satisfying thrill of accomplishing something new. What a thrill! But, as for heaven fully on earth, it will be perpetual satisfaction, thus no longer having an appetite to start something new to move towards that satisfaction. We will have reached it completely, as you said.

That's good, Chach.

2009-01-13T11:08:00.000Z
That's good, Chach.

Cool thoughts, Nate. (Daniel, you'll have to tell ...

2009-01-10T18:15:00.000Z
Cool thoughts, Nate. (Daniel, you'll have to tell Nate that msg for me ;-).

I also think you can draw a parallel to this with God's very revelation, itself.

In Eden, after the Fall of mankind, God didn't just immediately introduce Jesus. He initiated a "journey." It's his progressive revelation that unfolds throughout redemptive history, and takes us along on the ride.

I'd like to respond to these thoughts and carry it...

2009-01-08T21:51:00.000Z
I'd like to respond to these thoughts and carry it forward a bit in a soon to come post. But in the mean time I wanted to copy in a comment that my bro-in-law, Nate, made on the Facebook version of this post. I think it is very good.

Nate said...

Well I completely agree with you, I am the same way. The best part of a woodworking project is actually working on it, it's nice to see your product being enjoyed or used to its potential but I think a lot of that is even that it reminds you of the process of making said product. So that said, here's my opinion...

I think we are created by God to need the journey to prepare us for the destination. When we arrive at the destination and can look back it makes that journey endearing to us because we can see how it prepared us to more fully enjoy where we now stand. Kind of like in 1 Chronicles 21:24 where Ornan tries to give David his possessions for a sacrifice but David refuses saying he will not offer that which cost him nothing. There is something in the journey that makes the destination more pleasing.

I wonder in regard to your, Jesus being the destination, comment if my idea still holds true in that the journey of this life prepares us (or should if we truly follow Him) and produces a greater holiness in us that we more fully enjoy His presence? I don't know, that's probably full of theological holes :o] Just a thot.

Yeah, my comment sounded way too spiritual. :) You...

2009-01-04T16:19:00.000Z
Yeah, my comment sounded way too spiritual. :) You're great, Daniel.

I like the facelift on the site ;-D.

I was ...

2008-12-31T18:18:00.000Z
I like the facelift on the site ;-D.

I was just talking to my father-in-law last night about this. It's easy to start a project and get it to 95% completion, and then get bored with it and ready to move on to the next fresh and exciting idea.

He was telling me that his basement is finished, he just has to paint and nail-up the crown-molding. But he can't be bothered, lol.

Anyway, everyone else's comments are far more profound, but here's a pragmatic example from everyday life, hehe ;-D.

I read somewhere where Jamie Smith said he gets a sort of "project A.D.D.," where he gets bored with an idea after a long time and is ready to move on.

I think it's natural for all of us. It certainly is for me (biiiiig time =).

I think it's ok, Daniel. I do this with books. Hen...

2008-12-31T17:43:00.000Z
I think it's ok, Daniel. I do this with books. Hence why, at times, I might be reading 3 to 5 at the same time. I think it might also be a little bit of the apostolic in us. Apostles are good at initiating new things, seeing the importance of spreading outward to accomplish more, not just being satisfied with what already is established. The beginning of new works are important. So, maybe I am emphasizing the beginning and you are focusing more on the in between journey. In all, we must be level-headed and revel in all aspects of life - the initiation, the journey, and the finish line.

Good thoughts Daniel, and nice to have you bloggin...

2008-12-31T13:16:00.000Z
Good thoughts Daniel, and nice to have you blogging again. I agree with you and might even go further in saying that, while there are destination points along the journey (e.g. regeneration), there is never a final destination where everything is finished, as it were. If we think of our knowledge of God, for example, I think as long as we remain finite, created beings we cannot fully comprehend God, because he's infinite and therefore basically different from us. As we will always be finite, created beings I don't see a time when we will have 'arrived', even in the 'age to come'. I think we will see clearer in the age to come, and know more fully, but not know in fullness or entirety. I think there will always be the sense in which God remains profoundly mysterious to us, and that we are therefore always on a journey of getting to know him.

I think it's only in that context that the common understanding of heaven as a place where we continually worship God makes sense (not worship just in the sense of singing songs of course, but in glorifying God with the whole of life in the new creation/with our resurrection bodies etc.), because we can never fully exhaust all that can be said about him or given to him in acts of worship. So I think we will always be on a journey of finding new ways to glorify him, even in the most basic and mundane areas of this life, and the next.

So anyway, yes, I agree :)

I think it's the artist in you. God is a God of cr...

2008-12-31T04:20:00.000Z
I think it's the artist in you. God is a God of creativity, and who is at work--and we are made in His image.

Eldredge points out that Jesus didn't have a set routine for healing the blind--to some he spoke, some he touched, to some he applied mud. He worked, and He worked creatively.

And then there's Paul, who reminded Timothy that "He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ." So in that sense, I don't believe it's antithetical to the Gospel. Yes, the destination is Christ, but we've yet to reach the final destination--"He's still workin' on me."

And I believe the Holy Spirit works the same way as you (and I) do with websites. Just as you finish one site and move on the the next, so the Holy Spirit works in us to show us specific areas we need to change until we repent and make that change; then He moves on to another area that needs work.

While I do believe that it is all about the destination, truly the destination will not be reached until the Day of the Lord. Until then, we are made to work and to be creative, for we are made in the image of a God who works and who is creative in His work. But He will not stop working until the day of Jesus Christ.

So keep churning out those websites, and enjoy the journey--because, at the moment, there is only the journey.

d a n i e l J s t o r y

A shared trap hosting maintenance or virtual hosti...

I am glad you have the opportunity to teach the OT...

Can't wait to see your new office. Maybe I wil...

Dude, your previous office was awesome. I'm gl...

Hi would love to read where you get to working wit...

Good article Daniel. I think you actually touched ...

I am most certainly NOT complaining about "the cor...

Daniel, you're beginning to sound like an old man ...

Daniel, though you had spoken in previous articles...

Cool! Excited to see how this turns out. The 'theo...

This sounds interesting. I wonder what these chapt...

Very exciting! I'm looking forward to hearing you...

The sex thing needs more thought - there is defini...

Yeah, I need to dig into some Wright at some point...

"If we, even now, have the drive to taste of th...

Precisely. And I cannot deny that the connection ...

Your final thought: 'Since no destination, for the...

That's good, Chach.

Cool thoughts, Nate. (Daniel, you'll have to tell ...

I'd like to respond to these thoughts and carry it...

Yeah, my comment sounded way too spiritual. :) You...

I like the facelift on the site ;-D.I was ...

I think it's ok, Daniel. I do this with books. Hen...

Good thoughts Daniel, and nice to have you bloggin...

I think it's the artist in you. God is a God of cr...

I like the facelift on the site ;-D.

I was ...